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Re: Any ISPs using AS852 for IP Transit?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jason Lixfeld)
Thu Sep 15 15:22:03 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jason Lixfeld <jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca>
In-Reply-To: <20160915191529.GE16464@bamboo.slabnet.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:21:52 -0400
To: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

Sure.  My question was whether every TELUS BGP customer was being =
charged for these too, or if I=E2=80=99m the only one.  If I=E2=80=99m =
the only one, then I=E2=80=99m obviously caught in some administrative =
black hole there that I would like to get myself out of.  This is =
something that has only started happening in the last 6 months or so.  =
Prior to that, we were never charged by them for these requests.  =
Unfortunately, my sales rep has been less than helpful in trying to =
understand what changed to make us susceptible to these new charges.

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 3:15 PM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com> wrote:
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> So, to be blunt, I would cast this as their charging you NRC for =
manual work because of their failure to automate this.
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> --=20
> Hugo Slabbert       | email, xmpp/jabber: hugo@slabnet.com
> pgp key: B178313E   | also on Signal
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> On Thu 2016-Sep-15 15:09:33 -0400, Jason Lixfeld =
<jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
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>> Last time I asked, that wasn=E2=80=99t something that they had =
implemented, and had no definite plans to do so within any timeframe =
that was on their radar.
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>>> On Sep 15, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Steven Schecter <schecter@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>>> I question their motivation here and would follow up by asking if =
they support filtering by IRRdb and are merely trying to encourage the =
practice?
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>>>=20
>>> /Steve
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>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Jason Lixfeld =
<jason+nanog@lixfeld.ca> wrote:
>>> If there are any ISPs who use TELUS/AS852 for IP Transit over BGP, =
I=E2=80=99d be interested in hearing from you.
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>>> I=E2=80=99d like to compare notes to see if you are also paying $250 =
for each BGP prefix filter updated request, or if we=E2=80=99re the only =
ones=E2=80=A6
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>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Steven J. Schecter
>>> (m) 917.676.1646
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