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Re: New ICANN registrant change process

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Wed Jul 6 16:42:03 2016

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From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 16:41:58 -0400
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 4:04 PM, David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> wrote:

> Depends on whether or not the Registry wants their TLD to be associated
>> with spam/malware distribution/botnet C&C/phishing/pharming and be removed
>> at resolvers via RPZ or similar. Ultimately, the Registries are responsible
>> for the pool the Registrars are peeing in -- it's the Registry's namespace,
>> is it not?
>
> it's not clear, to me, that any of those hammers have real effect.
>
>
> Not sure the RPZ hammer has been brought out in force yet. I've seen a few
> recommendations on various mailing lists, but no concerted effort.
> Unfortunately, there is no easy/scalable way to determine who a registrar
> for a given name is, so the hammer has to be applied to the TLD as a whole,
> which has unfortunate side effects...
>
>
it's a fun game of chicken :( There have been some actions taken by
registries in the past (I think .TK did this at some point) to try and make
their cone more clean/neat, for a time .science was also being abused but
isn't (today) anymore. Perhaps this all self-polices?


>  I love how people love to blame ICANN.
>
> but, they are the names and numbers authority, no? it says so in their
> name.
>
>
> "Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" -- Don't see
> "authority" in that name. :)
>
>
I hate it when you are right :)

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