[190040] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Tue Jun 14 11:53:59 2016
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <20160614155024.GB8504@bamboo.slabnet.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:53:52 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Jun 14, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com> wrote:
> On Tue 2016-Jun-14 10:12:10 -0500, Matt Peterson <matt@peterson.org> =
wrote:
>=20
>> This week at NANOG67, a presentation was given early on that did not
>> reflect well for our community at large. Regardless of the content or
>> accuracy of the data presented (not the intention of this thread), =
specific
>> members of the community (some of which are sponsors) were clearly =
targeted
>> in a hurtful manner. The delivery of the content did not seem within =
the
>> spirit of NANOG, but instead a personal opinion piece. While no =
specific
>> rules of the speaking guidelines
>> <https://www.nanog.org/meetings/presentation/guidelines> were likely
>> broken, this does bring up a point of where the acceptable threshold =
exists
>> (if at all). To be abundantly clear - I have nothing against the =
content
>> itself, the presenter, the PC's choice of allowing this talk, etc. - =
I only
>> wish to clarify if our guidelines need modernization.
>>=20
>> As a community, how do we provide constructive criticism to industry
>> suppliers (that may also be fellow competitors, members, and/or =
suppliers)?
>> For example, router vendors are routinely compared without specific =
names
>> mentioned (say in the case of a unpublished vulnerability) - how is a
>> service provider any different?
>=20
> I understand the discretion involved in your question, but could we =
clarify exactly what presentation is being discussed so those of us who =
were not present at NANOG67 can also participate in an informed way?
I personally think the meta-question Matt asked is more important than =
opinions on a specific presentation. Plus I worry about devolving into a =
=E2=80=9Cthat was a good preso=E2=80=9D / =E2=80=9Cno it wasn=E2=80=99t!!=E2=
=80=9D flamefest.
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TTFN,
patrick
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