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Re: open relays at Earthlink

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brandon Ross)
Mon Aug 24 20:23:35 1998

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:58:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brandon Ross <bross@mindspring.net>
Reply-To: Brandon Ross <bross@mindspring.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199808241501.LAA29308@merit.edu>

On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Aaron Goldblatt wrote:

> Of course it's a boneheaded way to run an Internet business, if you plan to
> be a decent Netizen.  But consider:  Companies like flash.net,
> earthlink.net, mindspring.com, uu.net, etc., all exist for a single
> purpose: to make money.  It is -costly- to fix broken configurations that
> have a direct impact on customers.

I think we do an extremely good job of making sure our configurations are
not broken in any way that would make us a bad Netizen.  If you believe
otherwise and have already tried going through normal channels
(abuse@mindspring.net or hostmaster@mindspring.net for example) and
haven't gotten satisfactory resolution, please don't hesitate to let me
know.  We really do take our Core Values and Beliefs
(http://www.mindspring.com/aboutms/core.html) seriously, and they don't
just apply to direct customers. 

> You have to pay the support personnel to wade through the email and
> handle the calls.  You may have to pay for he calls if you're dumb
> enough to have an 800 number for support.

There's no surviving in this business without it.  The customers demand
it.  It's just a cost of doing business.

> Or you can continue to allow people to spam, which doesn't cost anything in
> any quantifiable manner, and annoys your support staff a whole lot less.

And makes you look really bad to your peers, who, in this line of business
are also your customers and suppliers.

Brandon Ross            Network Engineering     404-815-0770 800-719-4664
Director, Network Engineering, MindSpring Ent., Inc.  info@mindspring.com
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