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Re: Generation of traffic in "settled" peering arrangement

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Mon Aug 24 20:23:34 1998

Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:59:37 -0500
From: Karl Denninger  <karl@mcs.net>
To: Paul A Vixie <paul@vix.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199808242253.PAA26760@bb.rc.vix.com>; from Paul A Vixie on Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 03:53:04PM -0700

On Mon, Aug 24, 1998 at 03:53:04PM -0700, Paul A Vixie wrote:
> >   I hate to ask, but are *you* buying into the host transmit charges?
> > As opposed to client request fee's?
> 
> i'm not wedded to sender-pays or to receiver-pays.  what i want is to end
> the subsidies that have brought the internet economy this far.  granted
> that we couldn't have come to where we are in a free market, we can't get
> on from here without a free market.
> 
> therefore the people transmitting and/or receiving packets are going to
> have to pay, in micropayments of some kind or in variable rates through a
> settlement-like feedback mechanism, for the bandwidth they cause others
> to have to provision for.
>

They already do Paul.  That its not explicitly metered at the byte level 
doesn't change the fact that it has been paid for.

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