[188362] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: CALEA Requirements
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lorell Hathcock)
Fri Mar 18 17:15:03 2016
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From: Lorell Hathcock <lorell@hathcock.org>
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Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:14:58 -0500
To: Kraig Beahn <kraig@enguity.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Thanks for the tips. All good info.=20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 18, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Kraig Beahn <kraig@enguity.com> wrote:
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> I believe Scott, just hit the nail on the head...
> "but keep in mind that it's normal for people who have
> had to fulfill a request *to be disallowed from talking about it* which
> makes
> them seem even more rare than they actually are."
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>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
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>> Kevin,
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>> That's largely true, but keep in mind that it's normal for people who hav=
e
>> had to fulfill a request to be disallowed from talking about it which mak=
es
>> them seem even more rare than they actually are. I'm also not familiar
>> with any laws that prevent state or local agencies from leveraging CALEA
>> and I've certainly seen it used on the voice side by state level law
>> enforcement.
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>> Scott Helms
>> Chief Technology Officer
>> ZCorum
>> (678) 507-5000
>> --------------------------------
>> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
>> --------------------------------
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>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Kevin Burke <kburke@burlingtontelecom.co=
m
>> wrote:
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>>> Ignore it until you get the paperwork. The local law enforcement can no=
t
>>> get a warrant for the real time, full data capture. Only FBI or other
>>> national agencies can get those subpeona's. We went through this with
>> our
>>> local police department. They wanted to make sure we were prepared and
>>> wanted a test for the real time number capture on phone calls. They
>> didn't
>>> mention they don't have any equipment on their side to connect the T1.
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>>> Ask your local neighbors. Some area's have a number of local federal
>>> investigations. If you get the deer in the headlights look from your
>>> competition then you may never get one of these.
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>>> The full data captures are rare.
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>>> Kevin Burke
>>> 802-540-0979
>>> Burlington Telecom - City of Burlington
>>> 200 Church St, Burlington, VT 05401
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Lorell
>> Hathcock
>>> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 4:47 PM
>>> To: 'NANOG list' <nanog@nanog.org>
>>> Subject: CALEA Requirements
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>>> NANOG:
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>>> Can someone point me to the current CALEA requirements?
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>>> As an ISP, should I be recording all internet traffic that passes my
>>> routers? Or do I only have to record when and if I receive a court
>> order?
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>>> I'm not under any court order now, I just want to be sure that I am
>>> compliant going forward in my capabilities.
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>>> Thanks!
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>>> Lorell Hathcock
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