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Re: Netflix NOC? VPN Mismarked?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jan 28 04:08:13 2016

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAKnNFz-pAon5UjX2QgK=ayqfPQbVthmSLB6Kc0n0iwi1Ee1BWA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 01:07:06 -0800
To: chris <tknchris@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

IPv4 will become a progressively deeper version of hell until we finally =
turn it off.

Fortunately Netflix is running IPv6 for most things already. If you=E2=80=99=
re an ISP and you=E2=80=99re not
allowing them to reach Netflix via IPv6, then you=E2=80=99re part of the =
problem rather than the solution.

Owen

> On Jan 27, 2016, at 12:36 , chris <tknchris@gmail.com> wrote:
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> especially if these types of situations are handled on par with the =
way abuse and spam reports are handled
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> customer will report being blocked to netflix, netflix will tell end =
user to contact isp, customer will call isp  and level 1 call center rep =
will say "we can ping your modem and your service is up we dont see a =
problem, if you are having a issue with a specific service please =
contact your service provider"
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> and the infinite loop begins, customer gets frustrated, everyone loses
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> welcome to hell :)
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> On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com =
<mailto:owen@delong.com>> wrote:
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> > On Jan 27, 2016, at 07:12 , Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net =
<mailto:jared@puck.nether.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Andrey Yakovlev <andy.yakov@ya.ru =
<mailto:andy.yakov@ya.ru>> wrote:
> >>
> >> One user had his wife sharing his Netflix account on her iPad while =
on a conference to Europe (same account, different countries).
> >
> > Hmm, I seem to think this one might be quite common, so perhaps =
should be tied closer to the device vs account level.
> >
> > - Jared
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> This is all going to get a whole lot more entertaining with the =
combination of MIP6 and IPv4 CGNAT.
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> Owen
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