[187321] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AW: Peering Exchange
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt)
Wed Jan 27 09:01:13 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Andrey Yakovlev <andy.yakov@ya.ru>, Bernd Spiess
<bernd.spiess@ip-it.com>, Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>,
Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
From: "i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" <martijnschmidt@i3d.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:00:57 +0100
In-Reply-To: <507881453857826@web13j.yandex.ru>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
"We also had problems where transit customers said don't want to be
exported to a certain IX point of presence while he wanted to be
exported at a different location."
That's a fairly normal request. I think nearly every major IP transit
provider has built out a BGP action community system to allow their
customers to control prefix announcements in the way you're describing
it here (e.g. prepending and no-export to certain peers/upstreams). Of
course outbound traffic from your customer to "the rest of the world"
can not be controlled that way.
Best regards,
Martijn
On 01/27/2016 02:23 AM, Andrey Yakovlev wrote:
> Some companies present at some IX with no MLPE simply don't like to be =
listed at all, and they prefer to be filtered out from LG servers. It's s=
imply their police and some big companies do not have a policy which is t=
he same for everyone peering, say, content provider X will peer with you =
if you reach >80Mbps, could not always be true. I have lived a situation =
where someone demanded to peer to a DC I happened to manage at that time =
because his competitor was peering as well and sharing the same IX, but m=
y company had no real reason to peer from the NOC perspective and using a=
nother port would just be a waste of time and money with no real advantag=
e other than a barely better latency. Manager said no thanks, as asked fo=
r our peering policy to become private. Sometimes things just don't have =
a better explanation and some people just don't want to accept a differen=
t policy to different players.
> We also had problems where transit customers said don't want to be expo=
rted to a certain IX point of presence while he wanted to be exported at =
a different location. Who ever told him he could pick where we export who=
? Nobody. In the end if you are seriously interested to join the IX you w=
ill bet the full list for MLPEs, etc. Otherwise it's just the policy for =
the club.
>
> --=20
> ./andy
>
>
> 26.01.2016, 22:23, "Bernd Spiess" <bernd.spiess@ip-it.com>:
>>> Is there a way to browse a route server at
>>> certain exchanges, and see who is and is not on the route server?
>> Quite many ixp=C2=B4s do so ... so you can verify yourself what is go=
ing on...
>> Typical offer of a looking glass:
>> You can see the sessions, you can see the amount of prefixes,
>> You can see the prefix list and you can see the communities & more
>> on these prefixes
>>
>> E.g.:
>> https://lg.nyc.de-cix.net/
>> https://lg.dxb.de-cix.net/
>> https://lg.mrs.de-cix.net/ ... and others ...
>> https://www.linx.net/pubtools/looking-glass.html
>> https://tieatl-server1.telx.com/lg.pl
>> etc...
>>
>> not sure why this should be hidden ... but yes: there are some
>> ixp out there who does not show this information or just with a
>> login ...
>>
>> Bernd
>> (yes ... I do work for de-cix)
