[187320] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AW: Peering Exchange
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Wed Jan 27 08:56:46 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 07:56:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <507881453857826@web13j.yandex.ru>
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Peering with someone via an IX shouldn't be consuming any additional ports.=
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Emotional rather than technical concerns are typically why someone won't pe=
er.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
http://www.ics-il.com=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrey Yakovlev" <andy.yakov@ya.ru>=20
To: "Bernd Spiess" <bernd.spiess@ip-it.com>, "Colton Conor" <colton.conor@g=
mail.com>, "Hugo Slabbert" <hugo@slabnet.com>=20
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>=20
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:23:46 PM=20
Subject: Re: AW: Peering Exchange=20
Some companies present at some IX with no MLPE simply don't like to be list=
ed at all, and they prefer to be filtered out from LG servers. It's simply =
their police and some big companies do not have a policy which is the same =
for everyone peering, say, content provider X will peer with you if you rea=
ch >80Mbps, could not always be true. I have lived a situation where someon=
e demanded to peer to a DC I happened to manage at that time because his co=
mpetitor was peering as well and sharing the same IX, but my company had no=
real reason to peer from the NOC perspective and using another port would =
just be a waste of time and money with no real advantage other than a barel=
y better latency. Manager said no thanks, as asked for our peering policy t=
o become private. Sometimes things just don't have a better explanation and=
some people just don't want to accept a different policy to different play=
ers.=20
We also had problems where transit customers said don't want to be exported=
to a certain IX point of presence while he wanted to be exported at a diff=
erent location. Who ever told him he could pick where we export who? Nobody=
. In the end if you are seriously interested to join the IX you will bet th=
e full list for MLPEs, etc. Otherwise it's just the policy for the club.=20
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./andy=20
26.01.2016, 22:23, "Bernd Spiess" <bernd.spiess@ip-it.com>:=20
>> Is there a way to browse a route server at=20
>> certain exchanges, and see who is and is not on the route server?=20
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> Quite many ixp=C2=B4s do so ... so you can verify yourself what is going =
on...=20
> Typical offer of a looking glass:=20
> You can see the sessions, you can see the amount of prefixes,=20
> You can see the prefix list and you can see the communities & more=20
> on these prefixes=20
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> E.g.:=20
> https://lg.nyc.de-cix.net/=20
> https://lg.dxb.de-cix.net/=20
> https://lg.mrs.de-cix.net/ ... and others ...=20
> https://www.linx.net/pubtools/looking-glass.html=20
> https://tieatl-server1.telx.com/lg.pl=20
> etc...=20
>=20
> not sure why this should be hidden ... but yes: there are some=20
> ixp out there who does not show this information or just with a=20
> login ...=20
>=20
> Bernd=20
> (yes ... I do work for de-cix)=20
