[187192] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew D. Hardeman)
Thu Jan 21 22:43:20 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Matthew D. Hardeman" <mhardeman@ipifony.com>
In-Reply-To: <EC54AF53-51C6-48E7-A021-7852EE23B650@matthew.at>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:42:48 -0600
To: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
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An excellent point. Nobody would tolerate this in IPv4 land. Those =
disputes tended to end in days and weeks (sometimes months), but not =
years.
That said, as IPv6 is finally gaining traction, I suspect we=E2=80=99ll =
be seeing less tolerance for this behavior.
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at> =
wrote:
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>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:05 PM, Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Brandon Butterworth =
<brandon@rd.bbc.co.uk>
>> wrote:
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>>>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:07 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman <
>>> mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
>>>>> Since Cogent is clearly the bad actor here (the burden being
>>>>> Cogent's to prove otherwise because HE is publicly on record as =
saying
>>>>> that theyd love to peer with Cogent)
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>>> I'd like to peer with all tier 1's, they are thus all bad as
>>> they won't.
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>>> HE decided they want to be transit free for v6 and set out on
>>> a campaign of providing free tunnels/transit/peering to establish
>>> this. Cogent, for all their faults, are free to not accept the
>>> offer.
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>>> Can the Cogent bashing stop now, save it for when they do something
>>> properly bad.
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>>> brandon
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>> Selling a service that is considered internet but does not deliver =
full
>> internet access is generally considered properly bad.
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>> I would not do business with either company, since neither of them =
provide
>> a full view.
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>> CB
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> I note that if IPv6 was actually important, neither one could have =
gotten away with it for so long.
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> Matthew Kaufman
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> (Sent from my iPhone)
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