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Re: Netflix stuffing data on pipe

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Seastrom)
Mon Jan 4 10:36:01 2016

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From: Rob Seastrom <rs-lists@seastrom.com>
In-Reply-To: <A34E1C34-4E93-4FEF-8184-4A8EE5285C9B@fiberphone.co.nz>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:35:58 -0500
To: Pete Mundy <pete@fiberphone.co.nz>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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I haven't done packet dumps to verify the behavior (too busy catching up =
on holiday email) but I can't help but wonder if IW10 (on by default in =
FreeBSD 10 which I believe might be what Netflix has underneath) is =
causing this problem, and that maybe a more gentle CWND ramp-up (or =
otherwise tweaking the slow start behavior) for prefixes that are known =
to be in networks with weak hardware might be a good choice.

Of course this would be a change on Netflix's end...  as for things the =
ISP could do to alleviate the problem the answer is always "sure, but =
it'll cost ya".

-r


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 3:11 AM, Pete Mundy <pete@fiberphone.co.nz> wrote:
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> Very succiently put, Owen!
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> I concur.
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> Is anything the ISP could avoid =08to alleviate this occurrence, or is =
it entirely a 'server-side' issue to resolve?
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> Pete
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>> On 4/01/2016, at 8:42 pm, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
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>> As I understand it, the problem being discussed is an oscillation =
that is created when the reaction occurs faster than the feedback =
resulting in a series of dynamically increasing overcompensations.
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>> Owen


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