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X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org From: Daniel Corbe <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com> In-Reply-To: <A3BE9B4F-CDB9-43D1-9B03-456D6A8AA339@hammerfiber.com> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:32:15 -0500 To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org> Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org You know, without actually looking I=E2=80=99m willing to lay money down = that the people beating the blocklist drum are the same people who = scream the loudest about net neutrality when they can=E2=80=99t actually = get to the content they want.=20 > On Dec 25, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Daniel Corbe <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com> = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Dec 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote: >>=20 >> To the thread, not necessarily Daniel, if blocking = countries\continents is a bad thing (not saying I disagree), how do you = deal with the flood of trash? Just take it on the chin?=20 >=20 > If you as an end user want to be the cyber-equivalent of a xenophobe = because OMG BAD INTERNETS then be my guest. On the other hand, I=E2=80=99= m a network operator so I don=E2=80=99t have the luxury of dictating to = my users what they can and cannot reach. =20 >=20 >>=20 >> The degree of splash damage by blocking this way will vary based upon = what kind of network you are. Residential eyeballs? You could probably = block most of a lot of things and people wouldn't notice or care, as = long as it wasn't Google, Facebook, Netflix, etc.=20 >=20 > As a residential ISP with many first and second generation American = immigrants in my service footprint I can assure you this notion is = patently false. People will definitely notice and care if they can=E2=80=99= t communicate with their relatives and consume content in their home = countries. =20 >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----=20 >> Mike Hammett=20 >> Intelligent Computing Solutions=20 >> http://www.ics-il.com=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Midwest Internet Exchange=20 >> http://www.midwest-ix.com=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >>=20 >> From: "Daniel Corbe" <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com>=20 >> To: "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org>=20 >> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>=20 >> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:11:55 AM=20 >> Subject: Re: de-peering for security sake=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:=20= >>>=20 >>> Daniel Corbe wrote:=20 >>>> Let=E2=80=99s just cut off the entirety of the third world instead = of having=20 >>>> a tangible mitigation plan in place.=20 >>>=20 >>> You mean, cut off Sweden, Ireland, Finland, Switzerland and Israel?=20= >>>=20 >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World=20 >>>=20 >>> What an enormously silly idea.=20 >>>=20 >>> Seasons greetings to all,=20 >>>=20 >>> Nick=20 >>>=20 >>=20 >> It was a stupid idea even before you corrected me.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20
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