[186606] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: de-peering for security sake
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Corbe)
Fri Dec 25 11:25:40 2015
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From: Daniel Corbe <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com>
In-Reply-To: <152665494.5477.1451053216146.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2015 11:25:30 -0500
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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> On Dec 25, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> To the thread, not necessarily Daniel, if blocking =
countries\continents is a bad thing (not saying I disagree), how do you =
deal with the flood of trash? Just take it on the chin?=20
If you as an end user want to be the cyber-equivalent of a xenophobe =
because OMG BAD INTERNETS then be my guest. On the other hand, I=E2=80=99=
m a network operator so I don=E2=80=99t have the luxury of dictating to =
my users what they can and cannot reach. =20
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> The degree of splash damage by blocking this way will vary based upon =
what kind of network you are. Residential eyeballs? You could probably =
block most of a lot of things and people wouldn't notice or care, as =
long as it wasn't Google, Facebook, Netflix, etc.=20
As a residential ISP with many first and second generation American =
immigrants in my service footprint I can assure you this notion is =
patently false. People will definitely notice and care if they can=E2=80=99=
t communicate with their relatives and consume content in their home =
countries. =20
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> Mike Hammett=20
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Daniel Corbe" <dcorbe@hammerfiber.com>=20
> To: "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org>=20
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org>=20
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2015 8:11:55 AM=20
> Subject: Re: de-peering for security sake=20
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>> On Dec 25, 2015, at 7:14 AM, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> wrote:=20=
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>> Daniel Corbe wrote:=20
>>> Let=E2=80=99s just cut off the entirety of the third world instead =
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>>> a tangible mitigation plan in place.=20
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>> You mean, cut off Sweden, Ireland, Finland, Switzerland and Israel?=20=
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>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_World=20
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>> What an enormously silly idea.=20
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>> Seasons greetings to all,=20
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>> Nick=20
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> It was a stupid idea even before you corrected me.=20
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