[186334] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugo Slabbert)
Thu Dec 10 14:46:47 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:41:41 -0800
From: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20151210193225.GA31851@cmadams.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
--cDtQGJ/EJIRf/Cpq
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu 2015-Dec-10 13:32:25 -0600, Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net> wrote:
>Once upon a time, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> said:
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 1:07 PM, William Kenny
>> <william.r.kenny@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > is that still net neutrality?
>>
>> who cares? mobile was excepted from the NN rulings.
>
>Any why the desire for extra regulation for Internet services?
>
>Shippers (you know, actual Common Carriers) do things like this all the
>time, especially when they are busy (congested). I had a package ship
>Tuesday; it sat at the receiving location for 24 hours before the first
>move, then it reached my city early this morning, but since I didn't pay
>extra for timed delivery (and the shipper doesn't have special
>arrangements), it didn't go on a truck today. I should get it tomorrow.
>
>I could have paid more to get it faster, and some large-scale shippers
>have special arrangements that seem to get their packages priority. How
>is this different from Internet traffic?
Your package being delayed was based on your service level (what you paid=
=20
for the service) not the contents of your package or the sender's identity.
If we're going to get into the details of the sender's relationship to the=
=20
shipping company (i.e. "(and the shipper doesn't have special=20
arrangements)"), note that situation is more analogous to traffic where=20
both the sender and receiver are getting transit from the same provider. =
=20
If there were two shipping companies (sender uses shipping company A;=20
receiver uses shipping company B, and A & B hand off to each other), the=20
situation would be closer to the discussion.
>--=20
>Chris Adams <cma@cmadams.net>
--=20
Hugo
hugo@slabnet.com: email, xmpp/jabber
PGP fingerprint (B178313E):
CF18 15FA 9FE4 0CD1 2319 1D77 9AB1 0FFD B178 313E
(also on Signal)
--cDtQGJ/EJIRf/Cpq
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"
Content-Description: Digital signature
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1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=eMKE
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--cDtQGJ/EJIRf/Cpq--