[186029] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christian Kuhtz)
Mon Nov 23 13:42:28 2015
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From: Christian Kuhtz <chkuhtz@microsoft.com>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 18:42:06 +0000
In-Reply-To: <10331631.4.1448034343772.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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I don't know if this is NN or not, but the concept is ancient. Even back in=
the dark ages of mobile, zero rating and associated rev share were very co=
mmon.
Whether this is relevant to NN or not is for lawyers.
Christian
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
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> According to:
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> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.en=
gadget.com%2f2015%2f11%2f20%2ffcc-chairman-gives-t-mobiles-binge-on-the-thu=
mbs-up%2f&data=3D01%7c01%7cchkuhtz%40microsoft.com%7c7c7a1c832d1a4d7d615008=
d2f1c1ebb0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DXFz213dwbX7LmC2Fw=
UAeJn5HP%2bAV9rU6b4dCatA%2b6FM%3d
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> Chairman Wheeler thinks that T-mob's new "customers can get uncapped medi=
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> stream data, but only from the people we like" service called Binge On
> is pro-competition.
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> My take on this is that the service is *precisely* what Net Neutrality
> was supposed to prevent -- carriers offering paid fast-lanes to content=20
> providers -- and that this is anti-competitive to the sort of "upstart=20
> YouTube" entities that NN was supposed to protect...
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> and that *that* is the competition that NN was supposed to protect.
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> And I just said the same thing two different ways.
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> Cause does anyone here think that T-mob is giving those *carriers* pride
> of place *for free*?
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> Corporations don't - in my experience - give away lots of money out of=20
> the goodness of their hearts.
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> Cheers,
> -- jr 'whacky weekend' a
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