[182418] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: 'gray' market IPv4

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Thu Jul 16 13:05:59 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:05:51 -0400
From: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>
To: Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <55A7E028.1070402@bryanfields.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org



On 7/16/15, 12:47 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Bryan Fields"
<nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of Bryan@bryanfields.net> wrote:

>On 7/15/15 9:59 AM, Lee Howard wrote:
>> Price varies significantly by prefix length, and somewhat by region.
>> Regional variance may not be as much as it used to be.
>
>Does legacy space command a premium in this?

From what I understand, and I have not been a party to any transactions,
there are differences in transaction where the space looks =B3cleaner.=B2 That
is, space that has been less delegated, and has never appeared an a spam
blacklist. I don=B9t know whether that translates to higher prices, or
whether buyers just won=B9t buy questionable space.

>
>What's the going rate to lease space (say a /20 or /19 for discussion)?

Leases aren=B9t worth the trouble, because sellers believe that the only
reason for a temporary lease is to originate spam, following which the
address space is worthless. So if you can find a lease at all, it is
likely to cost as much or more than buying outright. Personally, I
wouldn=B9t lease space at all, because I wouldn=B9t want my organization=B9s
name anywhere near it when the bad stuff started happening.
The ipv4auctions.com site lists prefixes that large; recent /20s have been
$7.45-$8.00 per address.

Bear in mind that I=B9m essentially a researcher, and have no direct
experience. You might want to talk to a broker or three.

Lee

>
>--=20
>Bryan Fields
>
>727-409-1194 - Voice
>727-214-2508 - Fax
>http://bryanfields.net
>



home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post