[182417] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Thu Jul 16 12:58:29 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 12:58:18 -0400
From: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>
To: Joe Maimon <jmaimon@ttec.com>, Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>,
<nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <55A7CCA4.2020002@ttec.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On 7/16/15, 11:24 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Maimon"
<nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of jmaimon@ttec.com> wrote:
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>To clarify, my criticism of top down is specifically in response to the
>rationale presented that it is a valid objective to prevent, hinder and
>refuse to enable efforts that "compete" with ipv6 world-takeover
>resources.
I don=B9t see anybody hindering any efforts; I don=B9t see any efforts.
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>I have no intention of using Class E. I have no intention of developing
>code that uses Classe E. I will note that the code involved that is
>publicly searchable appears to be simple and small, the task that is
>large is adoption spread.
So this argument is moot?
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>But perhaps we can all agree that standards should be accurate and
>should not be used to advance uninvolved agenda. And class E
>experimental status is inaccurate. And keeping that status serves
>nobody, except those who believe it helps marshal efforts away from
>IPv4. And that is top down.
So, you would like to update RFC 1112, which defines and reserves Class E?
That=B9s easy enough. If somebody had a use in mind for the space, anybody
can write such a draft assigning space, which is, I believe, how to
direct IANA to do something with it.
If you want to direct IANA to distribute Class E space among the RIRs,
there=B9s more process, because you would also have to develop a global
policy (no problem, we get the NRO NC to write it and get consensus at
all the RIRs), and then each RIR would need to develop a policy under
which to allocate it. I=B9d be surprised if all that could happen in
less than three years.
In any of these processes, nothing will move forward until there is
consensus, and I don=B9t think there=B9s consensus. If you think your
argument can be persuasive, let=B9s write an internet-draft and get it
into the process.
Lee
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>Joe
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