[182345] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Wed Jul 15 11:24:43 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:24:35 -0400
From: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>
To: Mike <mike-nanog@tiedyenetworks.com>, <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <55A5A319.2070701@tiedyenetworks.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
I google=B9d =B3IPv6 for Dummies=B2 and found this:
https://www.wesecure.nl/upload/documents/tinymce/IPv6.pdf
It=B9s licensed from the For Dummies series, written and published by
Infoblox.
more below. . .
On 7/14/15, 8:02 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Mike" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org on
behalf of mike-nanog@tiedyenetworks.com> wrote:
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>On 07/14/2015 04:46 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote:
>> This goes back a number of years. There was a product that literally
>> was a cardboard box that contained everything one needed to get
>> started on the Internet. Just add a modem and a computer, and you
>> were on your way. No fuss, no "learning curve".
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>> I'm beginning to think that someone needs to create a similar product,
>> but for IPv6 internet. The Internet service providers would provide
>> the same sort of kit to get people started. Just add a CSU/DSU (like
>> a cable modem) and a computer, and you are on your way.
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>> Also, I think we need a *real* book called "IPv6 for Dummies" (maybe
>> even published by IDG Books) that walks through all the beginner
>> stuff. There's beginner stuff that I've seen by using a search
>> engine; a dead-tree book, though, may well be better for Joe Average.
>>
>> Just my pair-o-pennies(tm)
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>I am a small provider with a 16 bit asn, a /20 and a /22 of ipv4 and a
>/32 of v6, but no clue yet how to get from where I am today to where we
>all should be. The flame wars and vitrol and rhetoric is too much noise
>for me to derive anything useful from. Someone needs to stand up and
>lead. I will happily follow.
I also co-authored RFC6782, intended to be guidance for landline ISPs
deploying IPv6:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6782
We really tried to make it step-by-step, and you don=B9t necessarily need
to hit each step (as we explain in the document).
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>Whats really needed, is for you gods of ipv6, to write that 'ipv6 for
>ipv4 dummies', targeting service providers and telling us exactly what
>we need to do. No religious wars about subnet allocation sizes or dhcpv6
>vs slaac or anything. Tell us how to get it onto our network, give us
>reasonable deployment scenarios that leverage our experience with IPv4
>and tell us what we are going to tell our customers. Help us understand
>WHY nat is not a security model, and how to achieve the same benefits we
>have with nat now, in an ipv6 enabled world.
Send me private email and we can set up time to talk. I won=B9t know the
IPv6 capabilities of every piece of equipment you have, but I might be
able to help you plan.
Lee
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>Mike
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