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Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Wed Jul 15 12:41:15 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 12:41:08 -0400
From: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>
To: Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>, <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <55A682E6.1050607@matthew.at>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org



On 7/15/15, 11:57 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Matthew Kaufman"
<nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of matthew@matthew.at> wrote:
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>Go to any business with hardware that is 3-5 years old in its IT
>infrastructure and devices ranging from PCs running XP to the random
>consumer gear people bring in (cameras, printers, tablets, etc.) and see
>how easy it is to get everything talking on an IPv6-only (no IPv4 at
>all) network... including using IPv6 to do automatic updates and all the
>other pieces that need to work. We're nowhere near ready for that.

This is painfully true.
I don=B9t have much sympathy for Windows XP, since it=B9s a year past extended
End of Support, and it=B9s a 15-year-old operating system, now five
generations obsolete?
But specific-purpose consumer electronics are failures: not just cameras,
but game consoles, set-top boxes, audio-video systems.
Even security critical stuff like software updates, anti-virus updates,
CRL checks, are almost completely unavailable over IPv6. Unless you run a
large enough enterprise to have your own update servers; then they can
pull updates over IPv4, and serve clients over IPv6.

However, if you dual-stack now, you=B9ll be able to identify which things
are still dependent on IPv4, and either engineer differently, or
substitute equipment over time.

Lee


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>Matthew Kaufman
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