[181044] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Raymond Dijkxhoorn)
Sun Jun 14 17:32:52 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond@prolocation.net>
In-Reply-To: <E38CDABD-0248-47EC-86FE-2382A9E8F32F@beckman.org>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 23:32:42 +0200
To: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Hello Mel,
Must just be me then.=20
I was most likely expecting a more in depth report. Strange things happened.=
Perhaps they could post a 'what exactly happened' since this wasnt a averag=
e route leak.=20
Thanks,
Raymond Dijkxhoorn
> Op 14 jun. 2015 om 23:27 heeft Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> het volgende g=
eschreven:
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> Raymond,
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> They provided a "simple sorry":
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> "We apologise for any inconvenience caused by the service disruption."
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> It doesn't get much more simple than that.
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> -mel beckman
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>> On Jun 14, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond@prolocation.net>=
wrote:
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>> Hai!
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>> Mark, mistakes and oopses happen. No problem at all. I understand that co=
mpletely. There is human faillure and this happenes.=20
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>> A simple 'sorry' would have done. Yet their whole message tells 'they did=
ok' In my very limited view they did NOT ok. Did i misread?
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>> I am also very much looking how level3 is going to prevent things like th=
is. But out of own experience they will not. We have seen before that they i=
mplemented filtering based on customer lists. But not a per customer filter.=
They did this globally. So any l3 customer can announce routes of another l=
3 customer. While this can be changed this outage tells there is certainly r=
oom for improvements.=20
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>> I hope people will learn from what happened and implement proper filterin=
g. Thats even more important then a message from a operator that didnt even u=
nderstand fully what they caused to the internet globally.=20
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>> Thanks,
>> Raymond Dijkxhoorn
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>>> Op 14 jun. 2015 om 23:04 heeft Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> het vol=
gende geschreven:
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>>>> On 14/Jun/15 22:55, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
>>>> Hai!
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>>>> Wouw! This is what they came up with?!=20
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>>>> Hopefully Level3 will take appropriate measures. Its amazing. Really.=20=
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>>>> 'Some internationally routes'=20
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>>>> Have they any idea what they did at all?
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>>>> Its amazing that with parties like that the internet still works as is <=
tm> ...
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>>> I wouldn't be as hard. Stuff happens - and as they said, during a
>>> maintenance activity, they boo-boo'ed.
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>>> Are Level(3) going to own up and say they should have had filters in
>>> place? I certainly hope they do.
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>>> But more importantly, are Level(3) going to implement the filters
>>> against TM's circuit? Are they going to run around the network looking
>>> for any additional customer circuits that need plugging? That's my
>>> concern...
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>>> Mark.
