[179222] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Colin Johnston)
Fri Apr 3 15:03:02 2015
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From: Colin Johnston <colinj@gt86car.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 20:02:47 +0100
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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china says not a problem since they have head in sand and ignore cooperation=
phone contact with chinse folks does not help either
colin
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> On 3 Apr 2015, at 19:51, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
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>> On April 3, 2015 at 20:22 baconzombie@gmail.com (Bacon Zombie) wrote:
>> Is port scanning illegal in China?
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>> If not the there is no reason for then to do anything about it.
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> I don't think that's a minimal standard one has to use, illegal or
> not.
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> Management of the internet infrastructure is primarily a cooperative,
> voluntary (in terms of cooperation and communication and agreement to
> BCPs and standards), and good-faith effort, not just bounded by what
> is or isn't illegal.
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> As I said before these are companies most probably with many millions
> of dollars on the table, not miscreants out to cause problems.
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> I suspect if one got them to the table the answers would be a bit more
> nuanced than "it's not illegal!" even if someone burdened with manning
> a support desk may have said something like that.
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> All we really know at this point is that flinging emails at their
> admins hasn't been as effective as one might like. That's not entirely
> surprising.
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> -Barry Shein
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