[178765] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Taht)
Wed Mar 4 11:26:03 2015
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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:26:00 -0800
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Chuck Church <chuckchurch@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Chuck Church <chuckchurch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since this has turned into a discussion on upload vs download spe=
ed, figured I'd throw in a point I haven't really brought up. For the most=
part, uploading isn't really a time-sensitive activity to the general (as =
in 99% of the ) public. Uploading a bunch of facebook photos, you hit uplo=
ad, and then expect it to take x amount of time. Could be 30 seconds, coul=
d be 30 minutes. Everyone expects that wait. Sending a large email attach=
ment, you hit send, and then get back to doing something else. There just =
aren't that many apps out there that have a dependence on time-sensitive up=
load performance.
But In the bufferbloated era, your upload just trashed he network for
everyone else on the link.
https://gettys.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/bufferbloat-demonstration-videos/
> On download, of course no wants to see buffering on their cat vi=
deos or watching Netflix. Thus the high speed download. Honesty, I'm will=
ing to bet that even a random sampling of NANOG people would show their dow=
nload data quantity to be 10x what their upload quantity is in a day. For =
average users, probably much more than 10x. Why some folks are insisting u=
pload is vital just can't be true for normal home users.
> Those households trying to do 5 simultaneous Skype sessions aren'=
t typical.
A geeky household with dad doing skype, mom uploading to facebook, a
kid doing a game, and another kid doing netflix, however, is common.
And, it is truly amazing how many households have more than one device
per person nowadays.
Small businesses (currently) have it worse, if any of the users try to
combine these things.
> Chuck
>
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Dave T=C3=A4ht
Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again!
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