[178708] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Mar 2 15:34:45 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <54F48F98.9060906@pari.edu>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 12:31:35 -0800
To: Lamar Owen <lowen@pari.edu>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> On Mar 2, 2015, at 08:28 , Lamar Owen <lowen@pari.edu> wrote:
>=20
> On 02/28/2015 05:46 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>> Home users should be able to upload a content in the same amount
>> of time it takes to download content.
> This.
>=20
> Once a week I upload a 100MB+ MP3 (that I produced myself, and for =
which I own the copyright) to a cloud server. I have a reasonable ADSL =
circuit at home, but it takes quite a bit of my time to upload that one =
file. Even if the average BW was throttled to 512k, it would be really =
nice to have 7Mb/s up for just a minute or ten so I can shut the machine =
down and go to bed. Cloud services are becoming the choice for all =
kinds of content distribution, and there are more content creators out =
there than you might think who need to do exactly what I need to do.
How much of your downstream bandwidth are you willing to give up in =
order to get that?
Let=E2=80=99s say your current service is 10Mbps/512Kbps. Would you be =
willing to switch to 3Mbps/7Mbps in order to achieve what you want?
What about 5.25Mbps/5.25Mbps? (same total bandwidth, but split =
symmetrically)?
> And, well, I still use my connection in much the same way as I used =
dialup, turning it off when I'm not using it. I almost never leave it =
up all night; if my router isn't online it can't be used for malicious =
purposes, etc. And, no, I have no alternatives to the ILEC's DSL here, =
as 3G/4G cell service simply doesn't get to my house (now on the ridge =
behind my house, great 4G bandwidth, but I'm down in a valley, and the =
shadowing algorithm's show the story; I ran a Splat simulation from the =
cell tower site; across the creek from my house is the edge of one of =
the diffraction zones where good service can be found, and my house is =
in a deep null=E2=80=A6.)
I think you=E2=80=99re in the minority bothering to turn your router off =
at night. In my case, since I am hosting some services, turning off the =
routers wouldn=E2=80=99t fly anyway, but I recognize I=E2=80=99m nowhere =
near the average home user.
As to the rest, your situation isn=E2=80=99t even unusual in the united =
States, no matter how much the ILECs continue to try and claim =
otherwise. In reality, 3G/4G cell service isn=E2=80=99t a competition =
anyway because it=E2=80=99s very hard to get decent service and =
bandwidth for anything approaching cost effective.
Owen
