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Re: Checkpoint IPS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roland Dobbins)
Fri Feb 6 11:32:16 2015

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From: "Roland Dobbins" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2015 23:31:54 +0700
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On 6 Feb 2015, at 23:23, Darden, Patrick wrote:

> And when  your opinion is an acknowledged universal constant, I will 
> tip my hat to you.

It's been a constant for the last couple of decades - I can't count the 
number of times I've been involved in mitigating penny-ante DDoS attacks 
which succeeded *solely* due to state exhaustion on stateful firewalls, 
'IPS' devices, and load-balancers.

I've seen a 20gb/sec commercial stateful firewall taken down by a 
3mb/sec spoofed SYN-flood.

I've seen a 10gb/sec commercial load-balancer taken down by 60 second at 
6kpps - yes, 6kpps - of HOIC.

And so on, and so forth.

'Dismiss' it all you like, but it's a real issue, as others on this list 
know from bitter experience.

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Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net>

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