[177672] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 allocation plan, security, and 6-to-4 conversion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Fri Jan 30 12:14:38 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:14:29 +0000
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1501300753260.3013@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Tore,
Um, haven't you heard that we are out of IPv4 addresses? The point of IP=
v6 is to expand address space so that the Internet can keep growing. Maybe =
you don't want to grow with it, but most people do. Eventually IPv4 will be=
dropped and the Internet will be IPv6-only. Dual-stack is just a convenien=
t transition mechanism.
-mel
On Jan 30, 2015, at 5:03 AM, "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Tore Anderson wrote:
>=20
>> For many folks, that's easier said than done.
>>=20
>> Think about it: If everyone could just dual-stack their networks, they
>> might as well single-stack them on IPv4 instead; there would be no
>> point whatsoever in transitioning to IPv6 for anyone.
>=20
> I re-read this 3 or 4 times, and it still doesn't make any sense.
>=20
> I dual-stacked our backbone here at $dayjob 3+ years ago, and it really w=
asn't painful at all. Sure, there were were some transition pains, but the=
y've been more at the edge (firewalls, wireless, managing users, etc), but =
getting the backbone to handle both v4 and v6 was the easy part.
>=20
> Granted, this process can be more or less painful in different environmen=
ts, but definitely no reason to stick your head in the sand and pretend tha=
t IPv6 doesn't exist, especially in 2015.
>=20
> jms