[177375] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: discussing how to stop hacking is hacking which is now
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew D Kirch)
Wed Jan 14 16:09:51 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Andrew D Kirch <Trelane@trelane.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAGfsgR3RXPNMRPjbxf2YjeFDj65wHeMQF7da1piDD7ohMpAidQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 13:09:41 -0800
To: Jim Popovitch <jimpop@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> On Jan 14, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Jim Popovitch <jimpop@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Ken Chase <math@sizone.org> wrote:
>> http://blog.erratasec.com/2015/01/obams-war-on-hackers.html
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>> Therefore, immediate end of this thread? Are all subscribers to this list=
now
>> to be inconvenienced at airports? (Sorry, my bad.)
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>> Do we all need a CCNP Security-multipass to log into IRC now? Which chan=
nels
>> are now a good idea to avoid? #linux? #bitcoin? #nanog? #obamasucks?
>> #blacklivesmatter? (in Canada #idlenomore is similar and equally targett=
ed by
>> Palantir/Tempests as the latter was).
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>> What constitutes racketeering in 'communication'? Membership on a mailing=
list
>> or just reading a webpage?
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>> [ This week I was investigating a colleague's website, so I ran dig(1) in=
a
>> bash terminal in putty - she saw a text terminal, and exclaimed "Wait, st=
op, are
>> you hacking my website?!" I blame Sandra Bullock and to a lesser extent C=
arrie
>> Ann Moss (and the nmap crew, esp. for using actually-plausible toolsets/t=
echniques). ]
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>> This is an age old game, but the ante has just been upped. Our industry s=
hould
>> respond to this.
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> One has to wonder how any of this applies to the 'countries that hack'
> accusations that the FBI/CIA/NSA have always laid claim to.
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> -Jim P.
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You mean the credits page for Stuxnet?=
