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Re: Followup: Survey results for the ARIN RPA

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Mon Dec 8 14:43:29 2014

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From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 19:43:18 +0000
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On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:13 PM, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@gmail.com<mailto:rubensk@g=
mail.com>> wrote:


One could easily presume the ARIN region RPKI deployment statistics are
lower as a result of the RPA situation (and no doubt that it part of the
issue), but as noted earlier, it's unlikely to be the full story since
we also have a region (APNIC) where RPKI deployment also rather low that
and yet does not have these RPA legal entanglements.

It was suggested earlier that this may be due to a combination of factors
(education, promotion) beyond the RPA legal issues that are now being
worked - so that will also need to be addressed once the RPA is resolved.

Are the US litigation risks that much higher than other jurisdictions so th=
at ARIN needs to take a different approach than other RIRs ? If they are, p=
erhaps a confederation design instead of centralized one would help scatter=
 those risks ?

Rubens -

   It is true that US has an abundance of litigation, and while this doesn'=
t require
   a different approach than other regions, it does often mean that we're f=
ar more
   conservative in both technical and legal approaches initially.   ARIN's =
RPA is
   a typical example, in that it has allowed us to rollout the service in a=
 timely
   manner that would not have otherwise been possible.   Now that there is
   some operational experience, it's possible to review the experience and
   see if a more relaxed risk posture can be accommodated.

FYI
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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