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Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Thu Dec 4 12:53:15 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Wes George <wesley.george@twcable.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:53:02 +0000
In-Reply-To: <D0A5F08E.3AE6C%wesley.george@twcable.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:32 PM, George, Wes <wesley.george@twcable.com> wrote:
> Those are operational matters, implemented by the staff, governed by the
> board, who is informed by their legal council and staff. That is part of
> the reason why I brought some of the issues to the NANOG community, since
> interaction with ARIN board members and staff is what's necessary to make
> sure the concerns are addressed, and thus it benefits from wider
> discussion.

Wes -=20
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  I am happy to champion the change that you seek (i.e. will get it reviewe=
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  by legal and brought before the ARIN Board) but still need clarity on wha=
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  change you wish to occur -

     A) Implicit binding to the indemnification/warrant disclaimer clauses
        (as done by the other RIRs)

     B) Removal of the indemnification & warranty disclaimer clause=20

  I asked this directly during your NANOG presentation, but you did not res=
pond=20
  either way.  I also noted that your own business customer agreements have=
 the=20
  same indemnification & non-warranty clauses (as they are common in nearly=
 all
  telecommunication and ISP service agreements) - are these now being dropp=
ed
  by TWC in agreements?

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN


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