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Re: ARIN's RPKI Relying agreement

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Thu Dec 4 11:34:00 2014

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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 11:33:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ca By" <cb.list6@gmail.com>

> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:

> > All the specific legal feedback I=E2=80=99ve heard is that this is a
> > liability
> > nightmare, and that everyone wants ARIN to take on all the
> > liability, but
> > nobody wants to pay for it. Are you hearing something more useful
> > than that?

> This is the same legal feedback most lawyers will give you about
> settlement free peering as well.

And this delightfully illustrates what IMG's Mark MacCormack is pleased
to call "the Terrible Truth About Lawyers", to wit:

Lawyers believe that their job is to tell you what not to do.

Their *actual job* is to tell where risks lie, so that you can make=20
informed business decisions about which risks to take, and how to
allow for them.

If you as a businessman believe the lawyers' point of view, though,
you will never accomplish anything.

Cheers,
-- jra
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