[175669] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Mon Oct 27 18:34:35 2014
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From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:34:24 -0700
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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Barry,
On Oct 27, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
> Oh no! The Four Horsement of the Infocalypse!
Being dismissive of concerns related to illegal activities that make use =
of the DNS does not, of course, make those concerns go away. A number of =
folks make use of the registration database in attempting to address =
illegal activities, as such it seems to me that it would be useful if =
that database was accurate.
> It's the old problem,
Not really.
> crooks don't hand out business cards.
Registration data is used to identify registrants, not crooks. As Mark =
Andrews pointed out, there are uses for identifying non-crook =
registrants. In rare cases, registrants are crooks and while I'd agree =
the sophisticated crooks will find ways around any requirements for =
accuracy, I believe there is value to having accuracy in the general =
case.
Or are you arguing we should simply remove Whois as a service available =
to the Internet?
> And, again, at what cost, and to whom?
The cost obviously depends on the requirements and implementation.
The whom is and will always be the registrant. However, for the vast =
majority of registrants with a handful of domains, the costs are likely =
to be in the pennies. Granted, for the domainers with huge portfolios, =
the costs may be significant, however that is a cost of doing that =
particular business.
>> That is one part of the outcome of ICANN's ongoing effort to try to =
fix the multiple decade long nightmare that is Whois, yes.
> It needs a public examination. This is a big change.
Agreed! And, in particular, it would be nice if network operators, who I =
believe make non-trivial use of Whois examine that change and determine =
whether the changes meet their requirements and if not, dare I say, =
participate in ICANN to make sure it does.
Regards,
-drc
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