[175642] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Mon Oct 27 08:06:15 2014
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From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:06:02 +0000
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Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:58 AM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>=20
>> LACNIC numbers (as a percent) are quite good, but my question=20
>> was why only RIPE has the very impressive total count of ROAs.
>=20
> < conjecture follows >
>=20
> of course one can never know. but i conject
> o the are the largest registry actively promotin registration
> o the ncc, particularly alex, tim, oleg, ... have put significant
> effort into making it very easy to register
> o they have a culture of cooperation and doing things well
Reasonable conjecture; implies that in this region we need to overcome=20
our interesting legal situation, make things easy to use, and then do
some significant promotion. =20
>> You can clearly point to ARIN's legal treatment of the risks involved,
>> but that is not applicable in the APNIC case....
>=20
> it is hard to register in apnic, ask folk who have tried. the most
> active folk are under NIRs, who are only now working on deployment.
> apnic is not really promoting it.
Ah, good to know (and reinforces potential ARIN issues beyond legal=20
wrangling)
>> You don't feel there's any correlation between RIPE's IRR approach and
>> their RPKI success?
>=20
> that's the cooperative culture bit, actually interested in the net
> running well.
Presumably the NANOG community is also interested in keeping the net
running well, so if ARIN can provide some reasonably usable services,=20
that shouldn't be an issue.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
