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Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Danny McPherson)
Thu Oct 23 16:20:54 2014

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Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 14:18:43 -0600
From: Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net>
To: Christopher Morrow <christopher.morrow@gmail.com>
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On 2014-10-23 12:33, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> Sounds like you want to see the rirs make sure they get rpki work
> dine and widely available with the least encumbrances on the network
> operator community as possible.

Or focus on more short/intermediate term returns like fortifying all 
the existing systems and automating processes that are already deployed 
and focus on ROI of members and operational buffers required by the 
community _today.  E.g., IRR training and investment rather than RPKI, 
which this thread began with.

I'd continue and say in-addr.arpa or the like for resource 
certification because RPKI is so ugly, silly without a single root 
aligned with number resource allocations, etc.., but that'd require 
response cycles I'm not going to spend there.

> Did you see wes's slides / talk at the last nanog?

I did (after).

Aside, I understand why the ARIN board did what they did with the RPA 
and I don't blame them -- it seemed well considered to me, but that's 
just me.

Reminded of Taleb's "Fat Tony" quote [paraphrased]: If the pilot ain't 
on the plane, you probably don't want to get on it,

-danny








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