[175463] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Schiel)
Wed Oct 22 15:13:18 2014
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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:13:29 -0600
From: John Schiel <jschiel@flowtools.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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On 10/22/2014 10:43 AM, C. Jon Larsen wrote:
>
>> Hardly. The discussion so far has been weighted very heavily on the
>> side of Dana Carvey's "Grumpy Old Man"-style whining. "That's the way
>> it was and we liked it!".
>>
>> The people that like systemd (like myself) have wisely learned that
>> the people that hate systemd, hate it mostly because it's different
>> from what came before and don't want to change. There's no way to
>> argue rationally with that.
>
> Incorrect assumption. systemd is a massive security hole waiting to
> happen and it does not follow the unix philosophy of done 1 thing and
> do it well/correct.
i was beginning to wonder how secure systemd is also.
--John
> Its basically ignoring 40 years of best practices. Thats why folks
> that have been there, done that, dont want any part of it. Not because
> its new, but because its a flawed concept.
>
> You are free to use it, but it would be a poor choice for system that
> has hopes of being secure.
>
>> --
>> Jeff Ollie
>>
>>
