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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Sullivan)
Wed Oct 22 15:05:04 2014

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:04:51 -0400
From: Andrew Sullivan <asullivan@dyn.com>
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On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 01:35:26PM -0400, Daniel Corbe wrote:

> Not to get even further off topic here but when was the last time you
> maintained a BSD system?   FreeBSD (at least) adopted binary package
> management as its preferred interface to ports through pkg-ng somewhere
> in the 9-RELEASE cycle.  

Yeah, it was some time ago (fortunately, people keep me far away from
systems administration now).  But that doesn't exactly help: since
others drew the same conclusion, _even if BSD is now a perfectly
rational choice_, I've lost functionality I desire.  Docker is a great
example of this.  For many use cases, it's obviously better than the
alternatives.  So now I _can't_ pick FreeBSD.  And so on.

> This systemd debacle is an excellent reason to look into stuff that
> isn't Linux.  The Linux camp all too often become victims of "not
> invented here"

I don't think the latter is restricted to the Linux world!  But as I
suggested, the network security implications of all that stuff hidden
in one critical system sure seem to require some thinking.

A

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