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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (C. Jon Larsen)
Wed Oct 22 12:44:01 2014

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Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 12:43:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "C. Jon Larsen" <jlarsen@richweb.com>
To: Jeffrey Ollie <jeff@ocjtech.us>
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Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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> Hardly.  The discussion so far has been weighted very heavily on the
> side of Dana Carvey's "Grumpy Old Man"-style whining. "That's the way
> it was and we liked it!".
>
> The people that like systemd (like myself) have wisely learned that
> the people that hate systemd, hate it mostly because it's different
> from what came before and don't want to change.  There's no way to
> argue rationally with that.

Incorrect assumption. systemd is a massive security hole waiting to happen 
and it does not follow the unix philosophy of done 1 thing and do it 
well/correct. Its basically ignoring 40 years of best practices. Thats why 
folks that have been there, done that, dont want any part of it. Not 
because its new, but because its a flawed concept.

You are free to use it, but it would be a poor choice for system that has 
hopes of being secure.

> -- 
> Jeff Ollie
>
>

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