[175388] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug Barton)
Tue Oct 21 13:30:26 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 10:20:23 -0700
From: Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <5445E696.9090807@nic-naa.net>
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The fact that you think I'm commenting about you at all is illuminating :)
On 10/20/14 9:52 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
> i won't comment on your experience, having no direct knowledge. why you
> comment on mine is uninteresting.
>
> -e
>
> On 10/20/14 9:03 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
>> On 10/20/14 7:47 PM, Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:
>>> having written the technical portion of winning proposal to ntia for the
>>> .us zone, i differ.
>>
>> The plan I outlined was discussed about 2 years after Neustar took
>> over management, and TMK was never actually discussed with Neustar.
>>
>>> as i recall, having done the research, in the year prior to the ntia's
>>> tender some six people held some 40% of the major metro area subordinate
>>> namespaces. to my chagrin, relieved by a notice of termination days
>>> before my stock in the company vested, the winner adopted a
>>> "orange-black" model, deprecating the namespace's existing hierarchical
>>> registration model for a flat registration model.
>>
>> Yes, but the locality-based name space still exists. I used to hold
>> some names under it, but gave them up when I moved out of state.
>> Meanwhile, several states actively use their name space. But ...
>>
>>> the registration process model for .us is dissimilar to the registration
>>> process models of .edu, .mil and .gov, as are the contractors to the
>>> government.
>>
>> ... none of this is relevant to the proposal at hand. Neustar manages
>> the domain on behalf of the USG. There is nothing preventing them from
>> changing the way it is used, and the 10 year period I proposed takes
>> runout of existing contracts into account (since EDU, GOV, and MIL
>> would need continued operation during that period anyway).
>>
>> Doug
