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Re: Why is .gov only for US government agencies?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (manning bill)
Mon Oct 20 18:10:27 2014

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From: manning bill <bmanning@isi.edu>
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Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:09:42 -0700
To: Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com>
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FNC =93reserved=94 .gov and .mil for the US.

And Postel was right=85 there was/is near zero reason to technically =
extend/expand the number of TLDs.

/bill
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On 20October2014Monday, at 12:19, Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com> =
wrote:

> By the time of RFC1591, March 1994, authored by Jon Postel, said:
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> GOV - This domain was originally intended for any kind of government
>         office or agency.  More recently a decision was taken to
>         register only agencies of the US Federal government in this
>         domain.
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> No reference as to who, when, or how.
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> That same RFC says:
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>   In the Domain Name System (DNS) naming of computers there is a
>   hierarchy of names.  The root of system is unnamed.  There are a set
>   of what are called "top-level domain names" (TLDs).  These are the
>   generic TLDs (EDU, COM, NET, ORG, GOV, MIL, and INT), and the two
>   letter country codes from ISO-3166.  It is extremely unlikely that
>   any other TLDs will be created.
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> Gotta love that last sentence, yes?
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> --Sandy
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> On Oct 20, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> =
wrote:
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>>=20
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> =
wrote:
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>>> Wondering if some of the long-time list members
>>> can shed some light on the question--why is the
>>> .gov top level domain only for use by US
>>> government agencies?  Where do other world
>>> powers put their government agency domains?
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>>> With the exception of the cctlds, shouldn't the
>>> top-level gtlds be generically open to anyone
>>> regardless of borders?
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>>> Would love to get any info about the history
>>> of the decision to make it US-only.
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>>> Thanks!
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>>> Matt
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>> The short version is that that names were a process. In the =
beginning, hosts simply had names. When DNS came into being, names were =
transformed from =93some-name=94 to =93some-name.ARPA=94. A few of what =
we now all gTLDs then came into being - .com, .net, .int, .mil, .gov, =
.edu - and the older .arpa names quickly fell into disuse.=20
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>> ccTLDs came later.
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>> I=92ve been told that the reason God was able to create the earth in =
seven days was that He had no installed base. We do. The funny thing is =
that you=92ll see a reflection of the gTLDs underneath the ccTLDs of a =
number of countries - .ac, .ed, and the like.
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