[175090] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: wifi blocking [was Re: Marriott wifi blocking]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Sheldon)
Thu Oct 9 03:27:00 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 02:21:39 -0500
From: Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon@cox.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <0vH61p01j1cZc5601vH8CK>
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On 10/9/2014 02:16, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 10/9/2014 02:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2014, at 2:11 PM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 4:37 PM, joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/8/14 1:29 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>>>> On 10/8/2014 08:47, William Herrin wrote:
>>>>>> BART would not have had an FCC license. They'd have had contracts
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the various phone companies to co-locate equipment and provide wired
>>>>>> backhaul out of the tunnels. The only thing they'd be guilty of is
>>>>>> breach of contract, and that only if the cell phone companies decided
>>>>>> their behavior was inconsistent with the SLA..
>>>>>
>>>>> OK that makes more sense than the private answer I got from Roy. I
>>>>> wondered why the FCC didn't take action if there was a license
>>>>> violation.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/03/technology/fcc-reviews-need-for-rules-to-interrupt-wireless-service.html?_r=0
>>>>
>>>
>>>> From the article: "Among the issues on which the F.C.C. is seeking
>>> comment is whether it even has authority over the issue."
>>>
>>> Also: "The BART system owns the wireless transmitters and receivers
>>> that allow for cellphone reception within its network.”
>>
>> I’m not sure that statement is accurate. However, there is no
>> prohibition against owning a Microcell or other cellular station which
>> is operated by a third party under said third party’s license.
>>
>>> I'm not entirely clear how that works.
>>
>> If that were truly the case (and I don’t think it is, given BART
>> statements that “...the cellular providers are basically tenants and
>> are as such subject to…”), I’m pretty sure it would be operated by the
>> cellular carrier under their license as a non-owner of the equipment.
>
> What where the laws and practices in the Olde Days of over-the-air TV
> when somebody in a small town installed a translator to repeat
> Big-Cities-TV-Station into a small town?
>
>
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