[173693] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson)
Thu Jul 31 08:01:38 2014
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:01:28 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
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Subject: Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Date: Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 06:56:40PM =
-0500 Quoting Leo Bicknell (bicknell@ufp.org):
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> On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
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> > Symmetrical would be tough to do unless you're doing Active-
> > E.
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> I'm an outlier in my thinking, but I believe the best world would be
> where the muni offered L1 fiber, and leased access to it on a=20
> non-discrimatory basis. That would necessitate an Active-E solution
> since L1 would not have things like GPON splitters in it, but it=20
> enables things like buying a dark fiber pair from your home to
> your business, and lighting it with your own optics. That to me is
> a huge win.
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> It also means future upgrades are unencumbered. Want to run 10GE?
> 100GE? 50x100GE WDM? Please do. You leased a dark fiber. If the
> muni has "gear" (even just splitters) in the path they will gatekeeper
> upgrades.
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> It may be a smidge more expensive up front, but in the long run I
> think it will be cheaper, more reliable, and most importantly hugely
> more flexible.
GPON is basically unheard of in Sweden. All "fiber" access is either
copper to a switch in the basement/similar in multi-tenant houses or
direct pairs to CO. Some middle solutions exist where there's a rugged
switch in a pole or roadside cabinet, but they are exceptions. I think
the Amsterdam buildout is similar.
It is better, both for the customer and the provider. The only "loser"
is a potential third party acting as comms provider on L1, possibly L2.
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