[173612] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Carrier Grade NAT
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matt Palmer)
Tue Jul 29 16:04:55 2014
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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 06:04:46 +1000
From: Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 12:54:57PM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:42:31 -0500, Chris Boyd said:
>
> > There's probably going to be some interesting legal fallout from that
> > practice. As an ISP customer, I'd be furious to find out that my
> > communications had been intercepted due to the bad behavior of another user.
>
> See the various lawsuits against the NSA - the vast majority have been summarily
> dismissed because the plaintiffs couldn't produce evidence their communications
> had in fact been intercepted, and thus they didn't have standing to sue.
And the rest have been thrown out because the plaintiffs couldn't produce
evidence that they'd been specifically harmed by having their communications
intercepted, probably because it hadn't been "collected" (under the NSA
definition of same).
- Matt
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