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Re: Carrier Grade NAT

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Jul 29 12:55:14 2014

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To: Chris Boyd <cboyd@gizmopartners.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:42:31 -0500."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:54:57 -0400
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:42:31 -0500, Chris Boyd said:

> There's probably going to be some interesting legal fallout from that
> practice.  As an ISP customer, I'd be furious to find out that my
> communications had been intercepted due to the bad behavior of another user.

See the various lawsuits against the NSA - the vast majority have been summarily
dismissed because the plaintiffs couldn't produce evidence their communications
had in fact been intercepted, and thus they didn't have standing to sue.

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