[173544] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Richard Bennett, NANOG posting, and Integrity
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Woodcock)
Mon Jul 28 00:34:04 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 21:33:53 -0700
To: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <53D5CCB1.10404@bennett.com>
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On Jul 27, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Richard Bennett <richard@bennett.com> =
wrote:
> The essence of NN is for the eyeballs to pay for the entire cost of =
the network and for edge providers to use it for free; isn't that what =
Netflix is asking the FCC to impose?
I won=92t presume to speak for Netflix, and I won=92t presume to provide =
a canonical definition of =93network neutrality.=94 However, I can say =
what global prevailing business practice is, since I=92ve actually =
surveyed and quantified it:
Each network (regardless of whether they term themselves =93eyeball,=94 =
=93content,=94 =93edge,=94 or whatever) delivering a packet pays their =
own way to the IXP of their choice that the other party is present at, =
each network receiving a packet pays their own way from the IXP of their =
counterpart=92s choice that they=92re present at, independently in each =
direction. Thus, where content networks interconnect with eyeball =
networks, when they follow the best practice engaged in by 99.73% of all =
network-pairs, the eyeball network=92s customers pay them to deliver =
traffic to an IXP of their choice and from an IXP of the content =
network=92s choice, while the content network=92s customers pay them to =
deliver traffic to an IXP of their choice and from an IXP of the eyeball =
network's choice, long in, short out. No money changes hands between =
the two networks, because no value is exchanged between the two =
networks. Each network pays their own way, and is in turn paid by their =
customer. Because they=92re each providing value to their customers, not =
to each other.
In 0.27% of cases, the parties aren=92t able to see their way to =
following best practices, and some fraction of those are disputes =
between content and eyeball networks of the sort that you=92re =
describing. =20
-Bill
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