[173022] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Mon Jul 14 22:01:12 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAEmG1=oDB-cD6j1TnHicfL+ijAATs14y9LidbHD8VUys=MPNxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:01:11 -0400
To: Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:47 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com> =
wrote:
> Oh, yes; totally agreed. It's a one-way relationship
> in my mind; it's nigh-on impossible to be a competitive
> ISP without an ASN; but in no way shape or form does
> having an ASN make you an ISP.
I think here is where you are wrong. There are many people out there =
that have cobbled together ISPs and have appliances that will load =
balance or do failover with multiple DSL or hybrid DSL/Cable/T1 =
solutions.
I do understand the line you have drawn, but some of these people =
compete against the largest companies in the world and win business =
because of their uptime and support. I wish they wouldn=92t be doing =
=93CGN=94 or CGN-lite type things but it happens and they don=92t need =
an ASN to be competitive. And having an ASN would drive their costs up =
significantly. $500 in fees from ARIN represents a large number of =
subscribers profit.
- Jared=
