[171628] in North American Network Operators' Group
Please moderate yourselves, was: Re: US patent 5473599
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Thu May 8 00:30:26 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 21:00:37 -0500
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Rob Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <86d2fpdos5.fsf@valhalla.seastrom.com>
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Notwithstanding any legitimate or illegitimate grievance associated with
the sordid history of carp / vrrp / the us patent system / BSD forks
and their respective participants.
It's time to take a long weekend.
thanks
joel
On 5/7/14, 8:47 PM, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>=20
> Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> writes:
>=20
>> On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 05:57:01PM -0400, David Conrad wrote:
>>> However, assume that the OpenBSD developers did document their protoc=
ol
>>> and requested an IESG action and was refused. Do you believe that wo=
uld
>>> justify squatting on an already assigned number?
>>
>> I'm going to go with "yes", just to be contrary. At the point that th=
e IESG
>> refused to deal with 'em, they've effectively been ostracised from "th=
e
>> Internet community", and thus they are under no obligation to act with=
in the
>> rules and customs of that community.
>=20
> The bar for an informational RFC is pretty darned low. I don't see
> anything in the datagram nature of "i'm alive, don't pull the trigger
> yet" that would preclude a UDP packet rather than naked IP. Hell,
> since it's not supposed to leave the LAN, one could even get a
> different ethertype and run entirely outside of IP. Of course, the
> organization that has trouble coming up with the bucks for an OUI
> might have trouble coming up with the (2014 dollars) $2915 for a
> publicly registered ethertype too.
>=20
> Must be a pretty horrible existence ("I pity the fool"?) to live on
> donated resources but lack the creativity to figure out a way to run a
> special fund raiser for an amount worthy of a Scout troop bake sale.
> Makes you wonder what the OpenBSD project could accomplish if they had
> smart people who could get along with others to the point of shaking
> them down for tax-deductible donations, doesn't it?
>=20
> -r
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