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Re: why IPv6 isn't ready for prime time, SMTP edition

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat Mar 29 11:06:50 2014

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <20140329071508.GJ10032@besserwisser.org>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 11:06:11 -0400
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.=20

> On Mar 29, 2014, at 3:15, M=C3=A5ns Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org> wr=
ote:
> Quoting John R. Levine (johnl@iecc.com):
>>> Ergo, ad hominem. Please quit doing that.
>>> As a side note I happen to run my own mail server without spam filters
>>> -- it works for me. I might not be the norm, but then again, is there
>>> really a norm? (A norm that transcends SMTP RFC reach, that is --
>>=20
>> I know a lot of people who run a lot of mail systems, and let's just
>> say you're so far out in the long tail we need a telescope to see
>> you.
>=20
> I will not debate with people who resort to humiliation techniques
> when questioned.

I will not argue whether you were humiliated as that is something only you c=
an decide.

However, John was still factually correct. No big deal, lots of people are h=
umiliated by facts. Although I admit I didn't find the quote above terribly h=
umiliating myself.=20

Also, realize that John has already done more to stop spam in his career the=
n you and your thousand closest friends ever will. (E.g. Look up abuse.net.)=
 Again not humiliation, just a fact.

Feel free to plonk me as well. I won't be humiliated. :-)

--=20
TTFN,
patrick



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