[170213] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: arin representation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Mar 25 00:08:14 2014
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2a9cfysqm.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:03:17 -0700
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>,
North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 24, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
> john:
>=20
> i appreciate the numbers. thanks! and, btw, it has always been a
> pleasure to work with arin staff.
>=20
>> Total number of /24s of space directly registered in ARIN's database =
=3D
>> 6,644,175 (101.38 /8 equivalents)
>>=20
>> Of those: 2,808,621 /24s of space (42.3%) are registered to ARIN
>> members (42.86 /8 equivalents)
>>=20
>> Total number of Org IDs with directly registered IPv4 addresses =3D =
26,148 =20
>>=20
>> Of those: 4,520 (17%) are ARIN members
>=20
> the arin membership consists of 17% of the address holding =
organizations
> in the region (plus a few folk who buy membership), and they hold 42% =
of
> the address space.
>=20
> so the 17% (give or take) elect the board [0], and the board, through =
a
> complex inside-controlled process [1], sets policy for the other
> unrepresented 83%. and the board and policy wonks set policy and
> contracts, among other things the lrsa and rsa, which place serious
> barriers to becoming a member, such as clauses with arin being able to
> unilaterally change ts&cs arbitrarily. [2] [3]
Many facts not in evidence in that paragraph some of which are outright =
wrong.
[0] As a member of the nominating committee in question, I will disagree =
with
your claim that our declining to nominate you constitutes rigging the =
election.
While I can=92t disclose the details due to NDA restrictions on the =
NomCom,
I will say that in my experience having served on the NomCom several =
times,
they consider each potential nominee and do not take their duties =
lightly.
[1] Anyone can make a proposal. If the outsider=92s proposal is modified
by the AC, and the proposer does not like the modifications, the =
proposer
has an available petition process by which they can, if successful, get
the original proposal directly to the community for consideration. IIRC,
this petition process requires 10 or fewer people to support the =
proposer=92s
position in order to succeed.
As to the LRSA/RSA, in fact, the policies cannot be changed =
unilaterally,
they must be changed by a community driven consensus process except
in the case of emergency policy action by the board. To the best of my
knowledge, the board has only used that emergency authority twice.
Any emergency action is subject to review by the AC within 1 month and
by the community within 6 months.
=20
> and i know the "anyone can partiipate" theory. but in fact extremely
> few participate, and arin pays many of the policy wonks to fly around
> the world business class and spread the arin regulatory religion. no
> other rir does this.
Anyone with an email address who chooses to make the effort can easily
participate. The barrier to participation is close to zero. If you have
constructive suggestions on ways to increase participation, they are
welcome.
The other RIRs do, in fact, send representatives to all of the RIR =
meetings,
so I=92m not sure how you can make the above claim, unless your real
concern is the fact issue of the business class travel.
Owen
