[170048] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: misunderstanding scale
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ray)
Sun Mar 23 19:28:35 2014
From: Ray <sixsigma44@hotmail.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 19:28:04 -0400
In-Reply-To: <20140323231527.50DC711B49E0@rock.dv.isc.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Not necessarily. Printers generally run unattended=2C printers generally ar=
e not rebooted periodically for updates (assuring malware can continue to r=
un)=2C printers generally are not updated even periodically=2C printers gen=
erally have almost no logging that could be reviewed=2C printers are genera=
lly "managed" by the Level 1 Help Desk types whose concern is 99.999% avail=
ability to the exclusion of everything else and a host of other things.=20
IMHO there's not much comparison because of what they do=2C how they are (m=
is)managed and (not) monitored. But since vendors (and our employers) usual=
ly do their utmost to maximize profit while minimizing expense=2C nothing w=
ill change unless there is a user uproar. And that uproar for printers is g=
enerally a clamoring for more features=2C not less risk.
=20
> And there you go putting stricter requirements on printers that you
> don't put on laptop=2C servers. None of us would put any machines on
> the net if they had to meet your printer's requirements.
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