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Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on Technica

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Larry Sheldon)
Fri Mar 21 21:54:48 2014

Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2014 20:54:27 -0500
From: Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon@cox.net>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <gEDe1n01M5Tguqs01EDfgh>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 3/21/2014 9:13 AM, Sholes, Joshua wrote:> How do you get around the 
problem of natural monopolies, then?

My strongly held belief is that if the "natural" monopoly* becomes 
oppressive somebody in their garage will find another way, and absent 
regulation and force of arms available to the "natural" monopoly, 
eliminate the monopoly situation and maybe the "natural" monopolist.

    Or should
 > we be moving to a world where, say, a dozen or more separate 
companies are
 > all running fiber or coax on the poles on my street in an effort to 
get to
 > my house?

Could be--we have two energy companies at our house.  And two 
communications companies have boxes on the back wall.  Beyond the 
piped-in water service, we have several competing beverage sources 
(including for water) in service.  The house across the street has, it 
appears, at least three companies providing TV service (and Internet 
service?).  Three outfits provide waste disposal service in the 
neighborhood, although I am not bright enough to see a competitor for 
the sewage component.  I wasn't bright enough to see the World Wide Web, 
either.


Nobody uses poles.

 > IMHO, the only way to get real competition on the last mile is to 
have the
 > actual fiber/wire infrastructure being owned by a neutral party that's
 > required to pass anyone's traffic.

As soon as "required" is in the discussion, we have a monopoly, and a 
monopoly has the power to abuse the situation.

Wire and glass are not the only media available, as if that mattered. 
And we already have duplicates; what is the big deal?

OH!  And the reason why one set of wires is idle, is that provider got 
beat by the completion on the other set.  (For this discussion, coaxial 
cable is a "set of wires".)

*too old, failing memory and all, I'll have to go read up on "natural 
monopoly"--I can not think of one that does not require regulation and 
force of arms to exist.
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