[169916] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Thu Mar 20 17:39:09 2014
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Bryan Socha <bryan@digitalocean.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:38:37 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAOb1_VPQLXyhVKPTfX3uajerKSbQOr+J3s241tobZ0DrYRVNiQ@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 3/20/14, 9:34 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan@digitalocean.com> wrote:
>I don't know where everyones traffic goes but level3 and us, nothing.
>We've dropped all but 1 line which will be gone in 60 days. I don't
>care
>what their excuse is, they have been horrible this last 14 months and I'd
>rather get bw from cogent who isn't great but doesn't blame everyone else
>for their inability to peer better...
>
>A premium cost provider should have premium service and level3 is no
>longer
>that.
>
>
>Bryan Socha
>Network Engineer
>DigitalOcean
>646-450-0472
>
>
>On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 04:18:59 PM Patrick W. Gilmore
>> wrote:
>>
>> > "The market" can only "work around" things if there is a
>> > functioning market. Monopolies are not a functioning
>> > market.
>>
>> When did we ever have a "functioning market", even in
>> markets that are considered "liberalized" :-)?
>>
>> It is what it is - it's just less bad in some places than
>> others.
>>
>> > There will be a solution - in fact, there is today.
>> > Doesn't mean it is optimal. In fact, in the presence of
>> > a monopoly, it is pretty much guaranteed to be
>> > sub-optimal.
>>
>> Aye.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
