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RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Petter Bruland)
Thu Mar 20 17:22:21 2014
From: Petter Bruland <Petter.Bruland@allegiantair.com>
To: Bryan Socha <bryan@digitalocean.com>, "mark.tinka@seacom.mu"
<mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 21:21:49 +0000
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+1
Is this what happens when a vendor gets too big?
-Petter
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From: Bryan Socha [mailto:bryan@digitalocean.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade =
networks | Ars Technica
I don't know where everyones traffic goes but level3 and us, nothing.
We've dropped all but 1 line which will be gone in 60 days. I don't care
what their excuse is, they have been horrible this last 14 months and I'd r=
ather get bw from cogent who isn't great but doesn't blame everyone else fo=
r their inability to peer better...
A premium cost provider should have premium service and level3 is no longer=
that.
Bryan Socha
Network Engineer
DigitalOcean
646-450-0472
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 04:18:59 PM Patrick W. Gilmore
> wrote:
>
> > "The market" can only "work around" things if there is a functioning=20
> > market. Monopolies are not a functioning market.
>
> When did we ever have a "functioning market", even in markets that are=20
> considered "liberalized" :-)?
>
> It is what it is - it's just less bad in some places than others.
>
> > There will be a solution - in fact, there is today.
> > Doesn't mean it is optimal. In fact, in the presence of a monopoly,=20
> > it is pretty much guaranteed to be sub-optimal.
>
> Aye.
>
> Mark.
>
